Tag Archives: Markers

Finding Linked & Source Markers

The Quick Solution

Without getting into too much detail about the use of Source vs. Linked markers, I want to present a strategy for tracking down each marker type for given views. There are several ways to find a views source and linked markers.

First, there is a setting to show/highlight the source markers. If there is a reasonable density of source markers, it becomes easy to discern between the source and linked markers.

Highlight source markers - on screen

There is also a setting in the work environment to adjust the color of the highlight from standard yellow to any color or RGB code.On screen W-E.png

This has limited efficacy, since what you normally see is something like this:

Marker Mess

 

The Correct Solution

So a simpler, and better solution is to obtain a direct connection to the source marker and a list of the linked markers. First, click on any marker, linked or source, or open the view from the view map or project map. Once the view is open, click on it, and select the project map from the navigator. The current view will be shown in Bold in the project map list.Section Project Map

From here you can right click and select either “Select N marker on the Home Story and zoom to it”, or “Find Linked Markers”.Right Click Select Source Marker

The first option very simply zooms to the location of the source marker and selects it. The second option provides a list of all linked markers associated with that source view. If there are multiple instances or references to a single view map item in several markers, this will give a list of the marker type and location, and allow you to jump to that linked marker directly.Find linked markers 2

 

For more information on linked vs. source markers and how they work see:

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Interior Elevation Naming Glitch

In ARCHICAD 19 interior elevation markers have the ability to limit the horizontal range, or be set to infinite.

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Horizontal Range Settings in the I/E Marker

Even with the Horizontal Range set to Infinite, the limited line exists, but is not active. This limited view line does however, impact the <ZoneName> auto-text naming for the I/E. It can rename the Interior Elevation to the zone its “off” extents line extends to. So if you find a stubborn interior elevation name, don’t jump to overwriting it right away. Turn on the Limited setting and review where that limiting line is set to. If you drag it back to the I/E marker boundary, then turn the Horizontal Range back to Infinite, the name should show up correctly.

Remember, there are many places and ways to override virtually everything in ARCHICAD, and most of them should just be avoided (the exceptions being anything built into the template).

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Sitting Room North Elevation Shows as Main Stair Because of Invisible Limited Range Line

A Note on Marker/View Types

All markers have three types (with the exception of Interior Elevations, which must be a Source Marker); Source, Linked and Unlinked.

Source markers generate content based on model elements. Linked markers reference an already created source content or view. Unlinked markers are a blank slate that reference not model or drafted content or existing view.

A marker may be changed from source to linked, but any source content will either be missing or translated to 2d elements. This is irreversible, and for elevations and sections, new source markers and subsequent views will need to be created. Linked or unlinked markers can not be changed to source markers. Linked markers may be changed to unlinked markers, and unlinked markers may be changed to linked markers.

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Moral of the story; do not change source markers/views to linked or unlinked markers. You can create a work sheet from any view if you need to explode view content, or place a new marker if you need the source marker to reference a different drawing.

Interior Elevation Markers

A standard interior elevation marker will look something like this:Screen Shot 2015-09-21 at 9.34.56 AM

But if you only need one or two of the elevations associated with the IE, you can delete the others. Simply select the elevation cut lines and delete them.Screen Shot 2015-09-21 at 9.34.14 AM

Which will give a warning that 2d content will not be recoverable.Screen Shot 2015-09-21 at 9.34.20 AM

But the 3d content can be recovered if necessary. Simply select the revised marker:

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Right click and select Restore All Interior Elevations in Group:

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The original (non-deleted) elevations and their 2d content will remain unchanged. The restored portions of the elevation marker will now be available and restored to the original condition. Again, just to emphasize, the 2d drafted content of the deleted markers can NOT be recovered. But there is no need to delete the entire marker and start over.

View Map vs Layout Book & Linked Markers

There are several ways to use the navigator/organizer functions to produce a final set of documents. Some are easier to manage, some are better for maximizing flexibility. Some view map organizations have the advantage of being easy to set up and add to through the CD phase. Some navigator/view map management practices are just horrible for everything.

Here is a post with a great 10 minute video from Shoegnome explaining the Navigator vs. Organizer and what the pieces of the navigator (Project Map, View Map, Layout Book and Publisher) really are. One of the best parts of Jared’s post is the graphic explaining how one portion of the navigator relates to the next and really builds it up to more than its own parts.

Navigator

What this really means for detailing and the details structure is that a single source for details is possible, but that each unique detail should have its own source in the view map. There may be a Project Map item named 1″ Roof Details that has all standard roof details. Each detail on that window should then be saved into the view map with its own name and view settings, so that you will have 1″ Roof Details in the Project Map saved as Eave Detail, Ridge Detail, Barge Detail… each with unique view (Layer, Scale, MVO, Dimension Style, Zoom settings) in the View Map. The detail Views should then be placed to the appropriate layout.

This organization then has the advantage of quick, consistent, reliable and easy placement of linked markers. Linked markers should always link to the view map. If a marker links to a drawing on a layout the markers reference can potentially become severed if the drawing is moved to a new sheet. If the linked marker is linked to the first placed view of a view map item, that drawing can move anywhere, it can be cut and pasted, deleted and replaced, etc. and the linked marker will always re-reference the placed view.

Linked Marker ReferencesIts important to note this only applies to linked markers. Source markers always have their own unique relationship to the Project Map > View Map > Layout Book. If you are working on a project that already has a different View Map structure, or that already has its linked markers set to “The selected drawing” (layout item not view map item) special attention will need to be taken when setting up layouts or rearranging drawings and layouts. If a linked marker is linked to a layout drawing instead of a view map item, and the drawing is cut and pasted to relocate to a new sheet, it will loose the relationship to the drawing and appear as a yet to be placed drawing.

Detail Marker

To move a drawing to a new layout from a project already set up incorrectly, use the organizer to move the the drawing. Drag the drawing from one sheet to the new sheet in the layout book portion of the navigator.

RECAP & SUMMARY:

I want to stress again, if your markers are linked to layout items, not copy (or cut) and paste to relocate drawings, your linked markers will loose their reference to the drawings. If you are just starting to set up and build your views, or just starting to layout markers, each view that will go onto a layout should have its own view map item, and all linked markers should reference The first drawing of the selected view.

There will be more to come on this topic, and possibly some new additions to our BIM Manual. For now, don’t hesitate to ask if this is in anyway unclear.

Interior Elevation Cut Pen

There is a lot of content regarding best interior elevation marker settings, wether to mask or not mask the cut etc. (Shoegnome, GS Help Center). For WWA staff, the latest AC18 Master Favorites includes an interior elevation marker with all the correct settings (just updated today in the template & available for all AC18 projects), and our BIM manual includes an extensive article on how to document interior elevations.

Late last week a model manager discovered another little piece of important information on how to place interior elevation markers. More specifically, why the marker extents should be to the face of stud minimum, and never to the face of finish.

First, the following images show a plan view of the marker extents to face of finish and the resulting interior elevation (ignore the lack of ceiling for now). Notice the cut line at the walls is not correctly matched to the cut line at the floor.

Screen Shot 2015-06-10 at 11.48.43 AM Screen Shot 2015-06-10 at 11.49.09 AMThe correct marker location/extents should be to the face of stud to avoid cropping the line weight by the marker extents, like the following images.

Screen Shot 2015-06-10 at 11.49.33 AM Screen Shot 2015-06-10 at 11.49.47 AMAlso worth noting, the marker range should extend from top of subfloor or the thickness of the finish floor for the vertical range base to the bottom of framing at the rooms highest point (ridge, top of plate, etc.) to avoid cropping line weights at the ceiling or floor.

SECTION MARKER SYMBOLS

Trying to get your section marker to mask over line work and fills? Here are your settings:Screen Shot 2014-09-26 at 11.13.55 AM

By using the built in Marker in place of the NCS marker you have a setting for a background fill under the marker text, this will effectively mask out what is behind the marker. A few things to note on changing the marker head from the NCS to the Built in; the marker head scales differently, so our standard 30 pt marker (NCS) will need to be a 42 pt marker (Built In) to match, you will need to specify an appropriate masking cover fill for the marker background and a separate solid cover fill for the marker head arrow with white and black print pens respectively.

Once the change is made this should be your result:

Screen Shot 2014-09-26 at 11.16.03 AM(Top: NCS Marker      Bottom: Built In Marker)